Are Karl Marx's "Perpetuum Mobile" and/or Max Weber's "Machine State" Dominating Labor Today? Why or Why Not?

Abstract Submissions Closed

RC20 Comparative Sociology (host committee)
RC02 Economy and Society

Language: English

Session Type: Oral

Karl Marx predicted that when humans invest themselves into machines they lose their humanity and intelligence to the machines and become alienated from each other, from their work and from nature. Marx called a machine that corresponds to its concept, reproduces itself, never dies, and reduces labour’s value to zero, a “perpetuum mobile”. He referred to this new social and production relationship in Grundrisse. In Capital he refers to perpetuum mobile in terms of a continuous circulation of money, into and out of a hoarded or banked status. Marx was optimistic that workers could revolt, take over the means of production, free themselves from wage labor, and achieve a less alienated lifestyle. In contrast Max Weber saw society building an “iron cage” of bureaucracy around itself without a revolutionary way out. In Economy and Society Weber posited government bureaucracy creating a “machine state” that coerces the economy with help from machines, leading to a struggle of man-against-man (war), authoritarian governments and instead of revolutions, military coups that takeover the government’s communication systems and data-banks. Today, corrupt capitalists hoard, and turn over money while coercing governments — and underemployed workers invest themselves into alienating social media that turns over profits for the richest corporations in history. Without using AI or the Internet, Marx and Weber wrote about how machines could dominate labour; what can we contribute to this open session, by using Weber’s and Marx’s social and economic theories to analyze our turbulent, AI world? Further information available here: https://www.sociologygroup.com/an-interview-with-dr-noel-packard-karl-marx-and-max-weber-on-machines-dominating-labour/#google_vignette
Session Organizer:
Noel PACKARD, Independent Scholar, USA, npac825@aucklanduni.ac.nz